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Flip-flop, dancing like 5-year-old on issues

2016-08-26 11:16:18

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HOW? HOW? HOW? I like Trump, for all he said/promised:

Terrible, teribble - I alone can fix it. For YOU!

I all self-finance my campaign, no interest-group got hands on

I love Chinese Americans. I Love China.

I'll build the wall, no one gets in.

I'll deport all ilegal immigrants, all of them out!

I'll make America great again.

I'll bring all jobs back to the US.

I'll make you rich like me.

I'll make you feel safe.

I'll give college free

I'll make health care free for all.

So, I love it! But, what's his plan? How can he add his math? budget?

Now, he flip-flop against his own...betray all of us, enthusiatic supporters.

Surely, he takes other money, yours and mine.

Surely, he wants to soft his anti-immigration.

Surely, he wants your vote - not "I'm alone - I alone can fix it.

Surely, Clintons dishonest or fraudulent conduct just like all politicians in power, typically involving bribery, so we like a clean guy like Trump. But, what's you hiding in your Tax Return? What can't you publish your Tax Return? Ain't you also dishonest or fraudulent conduct ?

....

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From political cartoonist @davidhorsey: Does Trump even know what the word "bigot" means? http://lat.ms/2blWdNm

Trump calling Hillary Clinton a bigot is the tactic of a 5-year-old

Donald Trump awkwardly courts black voters with "bigot" charge against Hillary Clinton.
Donald Trump awkwardly courts black voters with "bigot" charge against Hillary Clinton.
David Horsey / Los Angeles Times
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Top of the Ticket cartoon (David Horsey / Los Angeles Times)
David Horsey
 

Donald Trump has said many crazy things, some quite entertaining, many wildly fantastical and incendiary. Now he may have outdone himself with his charge that Hillary Clinton is a bigot.

Even people who oppose Clinton and loathe her political views — maybe even those who believe that she is corrupt and think she should be “locked up” — would have a hard time agreeing that she is a bigot. Perhaps Trump does not know what the word actually means. Given his record and the company he keeps, he should.

 

Back in the early 1970s, around the same time a young Clinton was going undercover in Alabama to expose discrimination against black children in segregated academies, a young Trump and his father were sued by the Nixon Justice Department for blatant discrimination against blacks in Trump-owned rental housing. In a CNN interview Thursday, Trump misrepresented the nature of that suit and how it was settled. He claimed that the resolution of the case proved there had been no wrongdoing. The record, however, shows that the Trumps were required to take remedial actions and were later sued again when they failed to follow through.

 
David Horsey cartoons
 

Trump bends reality to put himself in a better light on a near daily basis, so it is no surprise when he revises his own history. His charge that Clinton is a bigot is yet another attempt to twist facts after being stung by allegations that he is empowering real bigots.

 
 

Clinton made that charge in a very public way in Reno on Thursday, giving a speech in which she said Trump has delivered power in the Republican Party over to a “radical fringe.” She noted that Trump’s new campaign CEO, Steve Bannon, comes from Breitbart News, an online entity that is the mouthpiece of the so-called alt-right that includes overtly racist elements.

“There’s always been a paranoid fringe in our politics, a lot of it arising from racial resentment,” Clinton said. “But it’s never had the nominee of a major party stoking it, encouraging it and giving it a national megaphone until now.”

Clinton’s sharp-elbowed speech follows on the heels of a new anti-Trump campaign ad that features video of several white supremacists enthusiastically giving him their endorsement. Trump could have responded in many ways to this onslaught, but he chose to take the approach of a 5-year-old who has been called a name and simply shouts the same name back — “I’m not a bigot, you’re a bigot!

First Read: Trump's Stunning Flip-Flop on Immigration

by Chuck Todd, Mark Murray and Carrie Dann

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First Read is a morning briefing from Meet the Press and the NBC Political Unit on the day's most important political stories and why they matter.

Trump's stunning flip-flop on immigration

Earlier this week, we wrote that Trump was weighing the possibility of backtracking -- as difficult as it seems -- on his previous call for a "deportation force" to deal with the 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the United States. But never in our wildest dreams did we expect him to signal being open to a path for legal status for those undocumented immigrants, something over which he attacked primary rivals Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush. At least this soon. "No citizenship," Trump told Fox News' Sean Hannity in an interview taped Tuesday afternoon, per NBC's Benjy Sarlin. "Let me go a step further — they'll pay back-taxes, they have to pay taxes, there's no amnesty, as such, there's no amnesty, but we work with them." More from Trump: "When I look at the rooms and I have this all over, now everybody agrees we get the bad ones out," Trump said. "But when I go through and I meet thousands and thousands of people on this subject...they've said, Mr. Trump, I love you, but to take a person that has been here for 15 or 20 years and throw them and the family out, it's so tough, Mr. Trump."

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Compare Trump's new rhetoric with Jeb Bush's from the primary season

If that sounds familiar, it's not too different from Jeb Bush's rhetoric during the 2016 primary season. "What we need to do is allow people to earn legal status where they pay a fine, where they work, where they don't commit crimes, where they learn English, and over an extended period of time, they earn legal status. That's the path -- a proper path," Bush said at the Nov. 2015 Fox Business debate. But here is how Trump responded to someone like Bush during the primary season: "The weakest person on this stage by far on illegal immigration is Jeb Bush. They come out of an act of love, whether you like it or not. He is so weak on illegal immigration it's laughable, and everybody knows it," Trump said at a Feb. 2016 debate in South Carolina. And here's a Trump TV ad attacking Ted Cruz for being "pro-amnesty" and "pro-immigration" for once holding a similar view on legal status.

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Will Trump's supporters give him a pass?

That's the big question we have. For one, conservative Ann Coulter -- whose new book "In Trump We Trust" has this line: "There's nothing Trump can do that won't be forgiven. Except change his immigration policies" -- went on the attack:

  • It's not "amnesty." It's "comprehensive immigration reform"!!!! Trump: "they have to pay taxes, there's no amnesty," she tweeted.
  • Only part he left out was the "hoops" they'll have to jump through! Trump: "No citizenship. Let me go a step further—they'll pay back-taxes," Coulter added.

What will Laura Ingraham say? What about Rush Limbaugh? Of course, Trump's new position here doesn't seem 100% set in stone, as Sarlin writes. "He sounded unsure of his own immigration position on Tuesday, at one point turning to the audience to survey them on the issue. 'Look, this is like a poll, there's thousands of people in this room,' Trump said. 'Who wants those people thrown out?' He later asked 'Who does not want them thrown out?' and concluded 'there weren't that many for the number two, but the few people that stood up, I get that.'" NBC's Hallie Jackson reports that Trump is expected to announce specifics on his immigration position in the next week or week in a half. Remember, Trump's initial hardline immigration stance is what got him traction during the GOP primary, and it's the most potent issue for many in the conservative base. This is definitely a risky move for Trump.

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Clinton: "There are no excuses" when it comes to her email setup

Calling into CNN last night, Hillary Clinton appeared intent on cleaning up Colin Powell's frustration about how Clinton and her allies are trying to pin her email problems on him. "Well, look, I have the utmost respect for Secretary Powell, and he was incredibly grateful after I was nominated and before I took the job," she said, per NBC's Monica Alba. "Appreciated the time he took when I was preparing to become secretary. Not going to re-litigate in public my private conversations with him. I've been asked many questions about emails and what I've learned is, what I've tried to explain there are no excuses. I want people to know that the decision to have a single email account was mine. I take responsibility for it. I apologize for it. I would certainly do differently if I could." Clinton also responded to the recent controversy over the Clinton Foundation: "I worked as Secretary of State was not influenced by any outside sources. I made policy decision based on what I thought was right to keep Americans safe and protect US interests abroad. No wild attack by Donald Trump is going to change that and State Dept has said itself that there is no evidence of any kind of impropriety at all." The Trump campaign isn't buying any of it. "Clinton's attempt to blame Colin Powell for her illegal email server backfired, and there's no way the Clintons could go from dead broke to making more $250 million since leaving office without breaking the law and trading off their access to office," communications adviser Jason Miller tells First Read. "This is exactly why we need a special prosecutor to investigate the blurring of lines between the Clinton State Department, the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton's personal bank account. It's corruption and the rigged system in Washington at its worse, and it's exactly why we need to vote for a change agent like Donald Trump."

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What does the "Alt Right" mean?

At 3:00 pm ET, Hillary Clinton will deliver remarks from Reno, NV tying Donald Trump to the conservative 'Alt Right" movement. But what does the Alt Right mean? We surveyed some Republicans and journalists and organizations who've observed the movement:

  • The Southern Poverty Law Center: "A set of far-right ideologies, groups and individuals whose core belief is that "white identity" is under attack by multicultural forces using "political correctness" and "social justice"
  • A Capitol Hill Republican: "White nationalists preying on racial and religious prejudices"
  • A prominent conservative commentator: "The reflexively anti-DC anti-Ryan/McConnell right"
  • The Washington Post's Dave Weigel, who has written about the movement: "Conservatives opposed to the philosophy of 'invade the world, invite the world.'"

NBC's Kasie Hunt has more on today's speech: Clinton is NOT expected to label Trump a racist or a white nationalist; rather she will keep to what she's been comfortable with and label his words and policies as such. Expect the speech to trace Donald Trump's recent history in politics from his birther comments through to this campaign

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Where will the Republican Party go after 2016?

Be sure to read the piece by NBC's Leigh Ann Caldwell and Benjy Sarlin on what happens to the GOP after the 2016 election. "Whether or not Trump prevails in November, the GOP is set for a rebuilding process like none in recent memory. If he wins, he'll face a Congress whose leaders have largely distanced themselves from his brand and who oppose much of his agenda. If he loses, his one-of-a-kind candidacy offers each faction of the party a credible argument that its approach would have carried the election instead."

Tuesday's Primary-palooza

Finally, we wanted to touch on the primary races we'll be covering on Tuesday - John McCain vs. Kelli Ward in Arizona (which is a much closer race than this month's earlier Paul Ryan primary), Marco Rubio vs. Carlos Beruff in Florida, Patrick Murphy vs. Alan Grayson in Florida, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz vs. Tim Canova in Florida.

On the trail

Hillary Clinton campaigns in Reno, NV at 3:00 pm ET… Donald Trump has a closed meeting with Latinos in New York, and then he holds a rally in Manchester, NH at 1:00 pm ET.

New campaign boss confirms that Trump is the alt-right choice
New campaign boss confirms that Trump is the alt-right choice
David Horsey

I just spent a very weird 15 minutes and 34 seconds watching a video of an alt-right commentator named Christopher Greene. He was sitting in his car, his face filled the image frame and he was riffing about shadowy globalists and New World Order overlords who are trying to hide the “truth” that...

I just spent a very weird 15 minutes and 34 seconds watching a video of an alt-right commentator named Christopher Greene. He was sitting in his car, his face filled the image frame and he was riffing about shadowy globalists and New World Order overlords who are trying to hide the “truth” that...

(David Horsey)

It is no surprise that Trump is annoyed. The contention that he is allied with racists undercuts his newly launched effort to reach out to non-white voters. In a speech this week given to a mostly white audience, Trump pleaded for blacks and Latinos to give him a chance. “What do you have to lose?”

Trump knows what he has to lose: an election. His support is abysmal among African Americans and Latinos, worse than any past Republican presidential nominee. According to polls, most of those people think he is a racist. There are simply not enough angry white voters to make up for his deficit with the minority electorate. And, with Clinton playing the race card, he needed to respond if he wants to preserve any hope of shifting perceptions his way.

But calling Hillary a bigot? That’s a tactic that assumes blacks and Latinos do not know what a real bigot is. Bad assumption, Mr. Trump. They know. They know too well.

David.Horsey@latimes.com

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TJKCB 发表评论于 2016-08-26 11:28:41
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For those wanting to jump up shouting "I love Trump!" - don't write me anything as I'm closely following Trump move up to now - I'm tired and sick of his flip-flop, so pathetic wanting jerk-up the poll, below.
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TJKCB (2016-08-26 11:16:18) 评论 (1)

HOW? HOW? HOW? I like Trump, for all he said/promised:

Terrible, teribble - I alone can fix it. For YOU!

I all self-finance my campaign, no interest-group got hands on

I love Chinese Americans. I Love China.

I'll build the wall, no one gets in.

I'll deport all ilegal immigrants, all of them out!

I'll make America great again.

I'll bring all jobs back to the US.

I'll make you rich like me.

I'll make you feel safe.

I'll give college free

I'll make health care free for all.

So, I love it! But, what's his plan? How can he add his math? budget?

Now, he flip-flop against his own...betray all of us, enthusiatic supporters.

Surely, he takes other money, yours and mine.

Surely, he wants to soft his anti-immigration.

Surely, he wants your vote - not "I'm alone - I alone can fix it.

Surely, Clintons dishonest or fraudulent conduct just like all politicians in power, typically involving bribery, so we like a clean guy like Trump. But, what's you hiding in your Tax Return? What can't you publish your Tax Return? Ain't you also dishonest or fraudulent conduct ?

....

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Los Angeles Times ‏@latimes 1h1 hour ago

From political cartoonist @davidhorsey: Does Trump even know what the word "bigot" means? http://lat.ms/2blWdNm

Trump calling Hillary Clinton a bigot is the tactic of a 5-year-old

Donald Trump awkwardly courts black voters with "bigot" charge against Hillary Clinton.
Donald Trump awkwardly courts black voters with "bigot" charge against Hillary Clinton.
David Horsey / Los Angeles Times
Top of the Ticket cartoon
Top of the Ticket cartoon (David Horsey / Los Angeles Times)
David Horsey
 

Donald Trump has said many crazy things, some quite entertaining, many wildly fantastical and incendiary. Now he may have outdone himself with his charge that Hillary Clinton is a bigot.

Even people who oppose Clinton and loathe her political views — maybe even those who believe that she is corrupt and think she should be “locked up” — would have a hard time agreeing that she is a bigot. Perhaps Trump does not know what the word actually means. Given his record and the company he keeps, he should.

 

Back in the early 1970s, around the same time a young Clinton was going undercover in Alabama to expose discrimination against black children in segregated academies, a young Trump and his father were sued by the Nixon Justice Department for blatant discrimination against blacks in Trump-owned rental housing. In a CNN interview Thursday, Trump misrepresented the nature of that suit and how it was settled. He claimed that the resolution of the case proved there had been no wrongdoing. The record, however, shows that the Trumps were required to take remedial actions and were later sued again when they failed to follow through.

 
David Horsey cartoons
 

Trump bends reality to put himself in a better light on a near daily basis, so it is no surprise when he revises his own history. His charge that Clinton is a bigot is yet another attempt to twist facts after being stung by allegations that he is empowering real bigots.

 
 

Clinton made that charge in a very public way in Reno on Thursday, giving a speech in which she said Trump has delivered power in the Republican Party over to a “radical fringe.” She noted that Trump’s new campaign CEO, Steve Bannon, comes from Breitbart News, an online entity that is the mouthpiece of the so-called alt-right that includes overtly racist elements.

“There’s always been a paranoid fringe in our politics, a lot of it arising from racial resentment,” Clinton said. “But it’s never had the nominee of a major party stoking it, encouraging it and giving it a national megaphone until now.”

Clinton’s sharp-elbowed speech follows on the heels of a new anti-Trump campaign ad that features video of several white supremacists enthusiastically giving him their endorsement. Trump could have responded in many ways to this onslaught, but he chose to take the approach of a 5-year-old who has been called a name and simply shouts the same name back — “I’m not a bigot, you’re a bigot!

First Read: Trump's Stunning Flip-Flop on Immigration

by Chuck Todd, Mark Murray and Carrie Dann

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Trump's stunning flip-flop on immigration

Earlier this week, we wrote that Trump was weighing the possibility of backtracking -- as difficult as it seems -- on his previous call for a "deportation force" to deal with the 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the United States. But never in our wildest dreams did we expect him to signal being open to a path for legal status for those undocumented immigrants, something over which he attacked primary rivals Ted Cruz and Jeb Bush. At least this soon. "No citizenship," Trump told Fox News' Sean Hannity in an interview taped Tuesday afternoon, per NBC's Benjy Sarlin. "Let me go a step further — they'll pay back-taxes, they have to pay taxes, there's no amnesty, as such, there's no amnesty, but we work with them." More from Trump: "When I look at the rooms and I have this all over, now everybody agrees we get the bad ones out," Trump said. "But when I go through and I meet thousands and thousands of people on this subject...they've said, Mr. Trump, I love you, but to take a person that has been here for 15 or 20 years and throw them and the family out, it's so tough, Mr. Trump."

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Compare Trump's new rhetoric with Jeb Bush's from the primary season

If that sounds familiar, it's not too different from Jeb Bush's rhetoric during the 2016 primary season. "What we need to do is allow people to earn legal status where they pay a fine, where they work, where they don't commit crimes, where they learn English, and over an extended period of time, they earn legal status. That's the path -- a proper path," Bush said at the Nov. 2015 Fox Business debate. But here is how Trump responded to someone like Bush during the primary season: "The weakest person on this stage by far on illegal immigration is Jeb Bush. They come out of an act of love, whether you like it or not. He is so weak on illegal immigration it's laughable, and everybody knows it," Trump said at a Feb. 2016 debate in South Carolina. And here's a Trump TV ad attacking Ted Cruz for being "pro-amnesty" and "pro-immigration" for once holding a similar view on legal status.

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Will Trump's supporters give him a pass?

That's the big question we have. For one, conservative Ann Coulter -- whose new book "In Trump We Trust" has this line: "There's nothing Trump can do that won't be forgiven. Except change his immigration policies" -- went on the attack:

  • It's not "amnesty." It's "comprehensive immigration reform"!!!! Trump: "they have to pay taxes, there's no amnesty," she tweeted.
  • Only part he left out was the "hoops" they'll have to jump through! Trump: "No citizenship. Let me go a step further—they'll pay back-taxes," Coulter added.

What will Laura Ingraham say? What about Rush Limbaugh? Of course, Trump's new position here doesn't seem 100% set in stone, as Sarlin writes. "He sounded unsure of his own immigration position on Tuesday, at one point turning to the audience to survey them on the issue. 'Look, this is like a poll, there's thousands of people in this room,' Trump said. 'Who wants those people thrown out?' He later asked 'Who does not want them thrown out?' and concluded 'there weren't that many for the number two, but the few people that stood up, I get that.'" NBC's Hallie Jackson reports that Trump is expected to announce specifics on his immigration position in the next week or week in a half. Remember, Trump's initial hardline immigration stance is what got him traction during the GOP primary, and it's the most potent issue for many in the conservative base. This is definitely a risky move for Trump.

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Clinton: "There are no excuses" when it comes to her email setup

Calling into CNN last night, Hillary Clinton appeared intent on cleaning up Colin Powell's frustration about how Clinton and her allies are trying to pin her email problems on him. "Well, look, I have the utmost respect for Secretary Powell, and he was incredibly grateful after I was nominated and before I took the job," she said, per NBC's Monica Alba. "Appreciated the time he took when I was preparing to become secretary. Not going to re-litigate in public my private conversations with him. I've been asked many questions about emails and what I've learned is, what I've tried to explain there are no excuses. I want people to know that the decision to have a single email account was mine. I take responsibility for it. I apologize for it. I would certainly do differently if I could." Clinton also responded to the recent controversy over the Clinton Foundation: "I worked as Secretary of State was not influenced by any outside sources. I made policy decision based on what I thought was right to keep Americans safe and protect US interests abroad. No wild attack by Donald Trump is going to change that and State Dept has said itself that there is no evidence of any kind of impropriety at all." The Trump campaign isn't buying any of it. "Clinton's attempt to blame Colin Powell for her illegal email server backfired, and there's no way the Clintons could go from dead broke to making more $250 million since leaving office without breaking the law and trading off their access to office," communications adviser Jason Miller tells First Read. "This is exactly why we need a special prosecutor to investigate the blurring of lines between the Clinton State Department, the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton's personal bank account. It's corruption and the rigged system in Washington at its worse, and it's exactly why we need to vote for a change agent like Donald Trump."

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What does the "Alt Right" mean?

At 3:00 pm ET, Hillary Clinton will deliver remarks from Reno, NV tying Donald Trump to the conservative 'Alt Right" movement. But what does the Alt Right mean? We surveyed some Republicans and journalists and organizations who've observed the movement:

  • The Southern Poverty Law Center: "A set of far-right ideologies, groups and individuals whose core belief is that "white identity" is under attack by multicultural forces using "political correctness" and "social justice"
  • A Capitol Hill Republican: "White nationalists preying on racial and religious prejudices"
  • A prominent conservative commentator: "The reflexively anti-DC anti-Ryan/McConnell right"
  • The Washington Post's Dave Weigel, who has written about the movement: "Conservatives opposed to the philosophy of 'invade the world, invite the world.'"

NBC's Kasie Hunt has more on today's speech: Clinton is NOT expected to label Trump a racist or a white nationalist; rather she will keep to what she's been comfortable with and label his words and policies as such. Expect the speech to trace Donald Trump's recent history in politics from his birther comments through to this campaign

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Where will the Republican Party go after 2016?

Be sure to read the piece by NBC's Leigh Ann Caldwell and Benjy Sarlin on what happens to the GOP after the 2016 election. "Whether or not Trump prevails in November, the GOP is set for a rebuilding process like none in recent memory. If he wins, he'll face a Congress whose leaders have largely distanced themselves from his brand and who oppose much of his agenda. If he loses, his one-of-a-kind candidacy offers each faction of the party a credible argument that its approach would have carried the election instead."

Tuesday's Primary-palooza

Finally, we wanted to touch on the primary races we'll be covering on Tuesday - John McCain vs. Kelli Ward in Arizona (which is a much closer race than this month's earlier Paul Ryan primary), Marco Rubio vs. Carlos Beruff in Florida, Patrick Murphy vs. Alan Grayson in Florida, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz vs. Tim Canova in Florida.

On the trail

Hillary Clinton campaigns in Reno, NV at 3:00 pm ET… Donald Trump has a closed meeting with Latinos in New York, and then he holds a rally in Manchester, NH at 1:00 pm ET.

New campaign boss confirms that Trump is the alt-right choice
New campaign boss confirms that Trump is the alt-right choice
David Horsey

I just spent a very weird 15 minutes and 34 seconds watching a video of an alt-right commentator named Christopher Greene. He was sitting in his car, his face filled the image frame and he was riffing about shadowy globalists and New World Order overlords who are trying to hide the “truth” that...

I just spent a very weird 15 minutes and 34 seconds watching a video of an alt-right commentator named Christopher Greene. He was sitting in his car, his face filled the image frame and he was riffing about shadowy globalists and New World Order overlords who are trying to hide the “truth” that...

(David Horsey)

It is no surprise that Trump is annoyed. The contention that he is allied with racists undercuts his newly launched effort to reach out to non-white voters. In a speech this week given to a mostly white audience, Trump pleaded for blacks and Latinos to give him a chance. “What do you have to lose?”

Trump knows what he has to lose: an election. His support is abysmal among African Americans and Latinos, worse than any past Republican presidential nominee. According to polls, most of those people think he is a racist. There are simply not enough angry white voters to make up for his deficit with the minority electorate. And, with Clinton playing the race card, he needed to respond if he wants to preserve any hope of shifting perceptions his way.

But calling Hillary a bigot? That’s a tactic that assumes blacks and Latinos do not know what a real bigot is. Bad assumption, Mr. Trump. They know. They know too well.

David.Horsey@latimes.com

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