与Jayant Bhandari对话 印度文化 中印关系
队长首次连线印度著名公知贾扬特！尖锐问题直球对决！解开印度残酷真实一面！精彩对谈！First connection with Indian expert Jayant!
队长来了 2025年5月27日
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yntNjPXT-SI
你好，jant先生，欢迎来到本频道。很多中国观众都对你印象深刻，他们认为你是印度学者中理性的观察者，你对问题的批评基于务实的态度，这与今天的中国人很相似。我们将讨论一些问题，第一个问题是……
Jayant
嗯，谢谢你邀请我，嗯，我觉得你的评估很正确，嗯，印度在与巴基斯坦的战争中失败了。嗯，根据我目前所读到或看到的内容，我认为巴基斯坦能够在战争开始后的几个小时内击落五架印度战斗机。如果这是真的，那应该算是一项世界纪录。嗯，因为我认为在任何一场战争中，都没有在如此短的时间内击落五架战斗机。现在，我认为很容易将莫迪对印度人进行洗脑的责任归咎于莫迪。嗯，问题是，印度人已经准备好被洗脑了，他们喜欢被洗脑，他们想生活在自我欺骗之中。他们喜欢自欺欺人，嗯，嗯，嗯，从他们自己社会和文化的宏大视角来看，所以问题出在印度人自己身上，嗯，确实是莫迪的问题。莫迪是个精神病患者，莫迪是个低智商的街头混混，因为印度的民主制度而登上权力宝座。联邦层面的民主是反婚姻的，这导致民众投票选出嗯，最伟大的煽动家来掌权，这就是莫迪的本性。莫迪没有主见，他只是在做印度人民希望他做的事情，也就是煽动，让印度人自欺欺人，好吧，
第二个问题
好吧，如果我要我建议中国政府如何与印度打交道，嗯，他们真的必须明白，善意对印度不起作用。印度在邻国没有朋友，没有一个国家与印度保持友好关系。印度与巴基斯坦有问题，印度与中国有问题，与孟加拉国有问题。与马尔代夫有问题，与斯里兰卡有问题，与缅甸有问题，所以它与每个国家都发生战争，它想欺负任何处于弱势的国家，事实上，如果我没有看错历史的话，印度想欺负中国，当时中国在50年代和60年代面临国内问题，所以印度会欺负任何它想欺负的人，它不懂得善意和友谊的概念，也不懂得坐下来解决问题的概念。现在印度和中国之间存在问题，存在边界问题，我认为应该能够和平地坐下来解决这些问题，原因很简单，印度和中国之间有很多争议地区，历史上都是无人区，这意味着它们不属于任何国家，它们不属于任何国家，因此，你别无选择，只能坐下来谈判，但印度的态度是，印度不会把一寸土地割让给中国或巴基斯坦，现在，当你甚至不知道谁拥有那个地区的什么的时候，这是行不通的，现在，嗯，你能吗帮助印度进行教育和工业化，不，这是行不通的。问题是，作为一个印度护照持有者，你可以走进新德里的中国大使馆，立即获得签证来中国，如果你想明天去印度，你不能去印度，因为你不会获得签证，如果你想获得特殊身份签证去印度，无论你去哪里，都会有一整队警察来来往往，审问你要去印度拜访的人，这就是印度的控制方式，所以印度不想要友谊，印度政府不想要友谊，因为印度政府不希望印度人对中国产生积极的看法。我已经来中国18年了，我去过中国的小城市，小城镇，嗯，印度政府不希望印度人体验到中国变化和发展的迅速程度，中国已经成为一个更宜居的地方，所以印度不希望印度人面对这种经历，嗯，所以你，你知道，如果中国想装备巴基斯坦，我不会感到惊讶。军事上确保巴基斯坦和印度之间继续进行代理人战争，以防止中国与印度直接开战，所以很遗憾，你知道我没有解决这个问题的办法，但问题是这个问题没有解决办法，印度人不想要和平，事实上巴基斯坦人也是一样，他们不想要和平，他们喜欢战斗，他们喜欢那种刺激，那种精神上的刺激，那种通过仇恨别人而产生的肾上腺素激增，所以这些人会一直和你打架，你现在别无选择，如果中国参与了破坏印度的稳定，问题是，一个不稳定的印度对印度来说比一个稳定混乱的印度更糟糕
印度，因为至少你们可以控制难民涌入中国，如果明天有一亿人试图越过边境从印度进入中国，你们该怎么办？如果印度崩溃了，对中国来说将是一场危机。我知道你们可能拥有强大的武装力量，但强大的武装力量只有在与武装部队作战时才有效。如果有一亿人试图越过边境，你们就麻烦大了。所以我猜中国政府应该……呃……不要破坏印度的稳定，但同时要确保边境得到妥善保护。因为……呃……一旦边界被破坏，一旦人们开始越境，印度就会变得不稳定，印度就会分裂成更小的国家，印度未来会面临很多问题，所以中国必须保护自己，而不是参与制造更多同样的问题。好的，
下一个问题
外国，嗯，我最初用了印度人深受其害的两个词：自欺欺人，嗯，呃，我认为人们应该认真研究这个问题，因为印度是邻国，你必须了解……印度人的思维方式是这样的，这些人极其容易被误导，他们确实是被严重欺骗的人，这就是印度人存在的本质，所以他们无可逃避，嗯，是的，印度人确实认为巴基斯坦赢得了最近的战争，嗯，印度能够在巴基斯坦的新电视台上摧毁巴基斯坦，嗯，印度有消息称，印度占领了巴基斯坦的城市，他们摧毁了与巴基斯坦有关的一切，他们即将占领整个国家，而实际上，印度在战争中惨败，所以欺骗印度人非常容易，因为他们准备自欺欺人，他们现在想被欺骗，所以他们想相信印度是一个更加工业化的国家，印度是一个更……嗯……更好的地方，而中国人没有自由，所以他们有……他们不想相信其他任何事情，事实上，如果你看看莫迪总理最近在推特或其他社交媒体上的帖子，你会发现他在谈论印度的 GDP 是如何超过日本的，嗯，日本是第一世界发达国家，嗯，印度是第三世界地狱，没有可比性，日本是世界前四五名国家之一，印度是世界前十或十五名国家之一，嗯，但印度人想要被愚弄，嗯，嗯，是的，印度人确实想要相信他们比中国更强大，嗯，你对此无能为力，嗯，这是我的问题，嗯，就好像如果我住在印度，而我不再住在印度，我确实经常访问印度，如果我住在印度，我最大的敌人就是印度政府，为什么嗯，原因是嗯，每当我在印度遇到公务员时，只有一件事很重要，那就是贿赂，你必须亲身经历才能相信，当你在印度遇到公务员时，他唯一的兴趣就是能从你身上得到多少贿赂，如果你是女性，也许还会得到性好处，所以就是这样这就是印度政府人员的想法，他们是掠夺者，他们想要追捕你，嗯，印度警察比罪犯还坏，所以我想把我的印度政府视为我最大的敌人，任何伤害印度政府的人都是我的朋友，嗯，根据定义，所以在我看来，对于一个理智的印度人来说，印度在巴基斯坦手中的失败是一个理智的印度人的胜利，因为他的敌人，也就是根本不考虑印度、根本不关心印度人民的印度政府，现在被打败了，嗯，你能对混乱、腐败和肮脏的印度做些什么呢？嘿，随着时间的推移，情况会变得更糟，嗯，印度将继续变得更糟，我告诉你，印度人对中国的嫉妒将会持续增加，原因是印度将继续恶化，至少在可预见的未来，我看到中国继续进步，这将引起巨大的嫉妒，嗯，在中国，这是一个非常重要的问题，至少在西方国家是这样。有一条叫做“十诫”的东西，意思是当你长大后，你的社会会教你如何做事，不要做这些，不要贪恋别人的女人，不要嫉妒，不要在法庭上提供虚假证据，这些在印度是没有价值观的。这意味着当人们嫉妒时，这种嫉妒是不受约束的，这种嫉妒是无法抑制的，他们会完全失去理智。所以印度人的嫉妒情绪会继续增长，因为他们不会……因为印度会随着时间的推移而持续恶化，至少在我的中央邦，法律和秩序现在是这样的，我已经走遍了我的中央邦的所有地方。
印度的法律和秩序 100% 处于黑手党的控制之下，所以黑手党使用警察，他打电话给警察局长说，嘿，快去除掉这个人，杀了这个人，所以那个国家的法律和秩序状况就是这么糟糕，所以是的，情况会继续恶化，中国对此无能为力，所以你印度的印度教徒（占人口的 80% 到 85%）支持以色列的唯一原因是因为巴勒斯坦人是穆斯林，对不起以色列，因为这些印度教徒是反穆斯林的，所以这就是他们支持以色列的唯一目的，现在我告诉你，我支持以色列，我认为以色列必须做它正在做的事情，因为它无法解决巴勒斯坦问题，巴勒斯坦人被灌输了如此多的思想，以至于巴勒斯坦周围的穆斯林国家都不愿意接受巴勒斯坦难民，但话虽如此，印度人支持以色列对巴勒斯坦的战争的原因是他们的反穆斯林心态，而且这种心态正在增加印度正在蔓延反穆斯林的歇斯底里，这最终会严重损害印度的利益，因为印度国内有近2亿穆斯林，你真的无法把他们变成外国人，毕竟他们人口如此庞大，是主要的少数民族，而且我们对此束手无策。印度人应该喜欢不去恨穆斯林，但不幸的是，从政客的最高层开始，他们都想让印度人学会恨穆斯林，所以不幸的是，这件事没有出路。印度会再次因为错误的理由支持以色列，因为它是反穆斯林的，好吧，我们有……
这里有七个问题，嗯，只有四个，接下来的问题没问题，好吧，嗯，嗯，嗯，首先，任何类型的移民对接收国来说都是一个大问题，如果任何社会中有少数移民，他们就会制造问题，因为他们无法融入社会。人们最好需要几代人才能融入社会，但大多数人就是无法融入。嗯，不幸的是，它们是贫民窟。贫民窟是移民聚集的地区，他们聚集在那些地区，共同生活和工作。嗯，美国、加拿大、澳大利亚、新西兰和英国有好几代移民的贫民窟，所以这些人拒绝被同化，特别是来自第三世界的人，原因是第三世界国家是地狱，因为这些国家有这样的人。所以你必须非常小心地引进来自南亚、撒哈拉以南非洲甚至拉丁美洲的移民，因为这些人创造了地狱，他们被抛在了后面，现在他们来到了西方国家，他们不会被同化，他们会把西方社会变成第三世界国家，所以嗯，所以你是100%正确的，印度人不会被同化，但这不仅仅是印度人的问题，大多数人，大多数移民都不会融入西方，大多数移民来自第三世界国家，今天来到西方世界的移民中有90%都是这样的。来自第三世界，所以不幸的是，西方世界存在着巨大的移民问题，我向你保证，这会摧毁西方社会，我为美国感到非常难过，我生活在美国，我爱这个国家，但不幸的是，它是一个伟大的国家，在我看来，它是地球上最好的国家，但不幸的是，在未来的二十年里，它会因为第三世界人民而被摧毁，这就是我一直祝贺远东亚洲国家，韩国、日本、中国、台湾、香港和新加坡的地方，因为这些国家没有接纳移民，因为这些国家对移民完全关闭，如果你作为难民来到中国或新加坡，你会遇到严重的麻烦，而如果你作为难民来到英国或加拿大，他们会欢迎你，他们会来拥抱你，他们会给你很多钱，他们会给你五星级酒店，他们会给你你想要的一切，所以嗯，远东亚洲国家做的一件伟大的事情就是他们不接受来自第三世界的人，所以嗯，我最近在中国呆了很长时间，我遇到了很多年轻的中国中国人非常担心未来，中国存在经济问题，中国存在失业问题，但问题是，聪明人总是担心未来，不太聪明的人不在乎，他们不担心未来，所以无论中国发生什么，中国人总是偏执，西方人也是如此，西方人偏执，因为他们是聪明聪明的人，聪明聪明的人担心未来，因此他们总是偏执，也就是说，中国确实存在经济问题，当你问中国是20世纪80年代的日本还是90年代的美国时1930 年代，我的想法，我的经历，我在中国看到的东西，我说的是今年在中国旅行的几个月，我的观点是，中国不是 1980 年代的日本，中国很可能是 1930 年代的美国，在我看来，中国将继续增长和进步，因为首先，我几乎没有看到中国发生内战，我看到一个运作良好的政府，我至少作为一个外国人，我看到了社会稳定，这告诉我，中国现在将继续增长，是的，当前的关税战对中国来说是一个问题，因为中国向美国出口的 10% 到 20% 取决于你如何计算，我认为中国直接向美国出口 10%，通过墨西哥、香港或其他国家向美国出口 10%，所以如果关税战继续下去，中国将受到影响，但我真的真的希望中国和美国能够以某种方式学会合作，我喜欢这两个国家，我在美国生活感觉很棒这是一个可爱的国家，有着可爱的人民，我在中国也有类似的经历。他们都是理性的人，有着共同的价值观。我认为他们应该学会合作，而不是互相争斗。我认为中美之间不会发生战争，因为他们都是理性的人。但同时，我希望他们学会合作，因为这两个国家可以通过合作来相互促进。但问题是，政府变得害怕，这与人民无关。到了一定程度，政府开始害怕其他国家的经济和社会正在发生的事情。我不明白中国政府和美国政府之间的细微差别，所以我真的希望人们能够醒悟过来，学会互相喜欢。这就是问题所在。嗯，在美国，当我告诉我的朋友关于中国的事情时，他们翻了白眼，不相信我，不相信中国取得了如此大的进步。同样，我听说，当我和中国的中国人交谈时，他们对美国的看法是，他们担心的是说美国的好话，因为存在着社会和同侪压力，让他们不要说太多。对美国持积极态度，所以我希望两国人民能够敞开心扉，理解彼此的相似之处而非不同之处。这两个国家可以很好地合作。事实上，我在中国开车的时候，上周我在中国开车，嗯，当我在中国开车的时候，我会去一些新地方，我有时会觉得自己在美国，因为那里的道路很像美国，汽车很漂亮，我去的新地方也很可爱，所以我觉得中国正在变成美国和日本的结合体，嗯，因为日本没有宽阔的道路，日本也不是一个很大的国家，所以我觉得中国更像20世纪30年代的美国。不过，你还是要非常小心，因为有一个术语叫做增长恐慌，嗯，当社会发生变化时，它们会产生很多内部压力，事情随时都可能爆发，所以嗯，人们必须非常小心，政府必须非常小心，确保中国的经济持续改善。嗯，我父亲曾经经营着最重要的印刷厂之一。印度中部省份博帕尔市的印刷厂，博帕尔市是中央邦的首府，人口约 1.2 亿，而中央邦本身就是欧盟最大的国家，所以我的父亲在那里经营一家印刷厂，我很早就和他一起工作了，我记得我四五岁的时候就开始和他一起工作了，来我父亲印刷厂的人都是政客，所以我和这些人非常熟悉，嗯，我还能够去天主教学校上学，幸运的是，由于几个原因，我能够培养独立??的思维方式，我认为其中一个关键原因是我的父亲，因为他经营自己的企业，他经营一家印刷厂，当你经营一家企业时，你必须了解因果关系，你必须了解反馈，你不能欺骗自己，我不能欺骗自己，认为我在经营一家企业，我会成为亿万富翁，不，如果你的公司亏损，你就会破产因为我和父亲一起工作，培养了这种客观性，而我父亲是我一生中遇到的最诚实的人之一，所以他教会了我独立思考，因为在这个国家，我从未遇到过
另一个诚实的人，所以我认为这帮助我培养了独立思考的能力。但后来我去了英国和加拿大生活，我告诉你，这些人很有美德，他们讲真话，他们宽容大度，富有同情心，乐于助人，所以我能够提高很多方面。
我开始在英国和加拿大生活后，开始思考各种思维方式，很好，嗯，好的，我们很高兴邀请詹特先生从印度专业观察员的角度与我们分享他的观点，这对中国观众来说是一个很好的机会，嗯，谢谢詹特先生，今天的视频就到这里，再见，谢谢，非常感谢您给我这个机会，好吗
队长首次连线印度著名公知贾扬特！尖锐问题直球对决！解开印度残酷真实一面！精彩对谈！First connection with Indian expert Jayant!
队长来了 2025年5月27日
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yntNjPXT-SI
hello Mr jant welcome to the channel uh many Chinese audience are impressed with you they think you are a rational observer among India scholars and your criticism of problems is based on a pragmatic attitude so which is similar to the Chinese people today we will discuss some issues and the first question
Jayant
So um thanks for having me and um it seems to me that you are quite correct in your assessment that uh India lost in the current war with Pakistan uh it seems to me uh based on what I have read or seen so far that Pakistan was able to shoot down five Indian fighter jets within a few hours of the start of the fight if that is true that should be uh a world record of sorts uh because I don't think any in any war has um five fighter jets been shot down in a period of in such a short period now I think it is easy to blame Modi for brainwashing Indians uh the problem is that Indians are prepared to be brainwashed they like to be brainwashed they they want to live under self delusions and selfdeception they like to fool themselves um and uh um in in a in a view of grandiosity of their own society and their own culture so the problem starts with Indians themselves it is uh indeed a problem with Modi modi is a psychopath modi is a low IQ street goon who has got elevated into a position of power because of Indian democracy democracy at a federal level is antimarritocratic and it leads to masses voting for um the biggest demagogue possible into position of power and that is what Modi is modi has no mind of his own he's merely doing what the people of India want him to do which is demagoguery and to enable self delusion and selfdeception among uh Indians okay the
second question
well so if I had to advise the Chinese government on how to do deal with India um really they have to understand that goodwill does not work on India India has no friends in the neighborhood there's Not one country which has a friendly relationship with India india has problems with Pakistan india has problems with China it has problems with Bangladesh it has problem with Maldives it has problem with SriLanka it has problems with Myanmar so it fights with everyone it wants to bully any country that is uh in a weaker situation and in fact in if I read the history right China India wanted to bully China when China was for facing civil issues in the 50s and 60s so India will bully anyone it wants to it does not understand the concept of goodwill and friendship and the concept of sitting sitting down to sort out problems now there are problems between India and China there are border problems and I think they should be it should be possible to sit down peacefully and sort those out the reason is very simple that a lot of area that is disputed between India and China are areas which were historically no man's land which meant that they were parts of no country they were areas which were not owned by any country and as a result uh you have no other option but to sit down and negotiate but Indian approaches that India will not give an inch of its land to China or Pakistan now it does not work when you don't even know who owns what in that area now um can you help India with education and industrialization no it does not work u the the issue is that as an in as an Indian passport holder one can walk into the Chinese embassy in New Delhi and get a visa right away to come to China if you want to go to India tomorrow you cannot go to India because you will not be given a visa and if you want a special status visa to go to India wherever you will go a whole team of police will come and go and interrogate the people you are going to visit in India so that is how controlled India is so India does not want friendship indian government does not want friendship because Indian government does not want Indians to develop a positive opinion of China now I have been coming to China for the last 18 years now and I have been to smaller cities smaller towns in China um Indian government does not want Indians to experience how rapidly China has changed and developed has become such a nicer place to live in so India does not want that want Indians to face that experience um now so u uh you know I'm I'm I wouldn't be surprised if China wants to equip Pakistan uh militarily to make sure that there's a proxy war continues between Pakistan and India to to keep China away from a direct war with India um so u so unfortunately you know I don't have a solution to the problem but the problem is that there is no solution to this problem indians do not want peace and in fact it's the same thing with Pakistanis as well they do not want peace they uh enjoy fighting they enjoy the rush the mental rush the adrenaline rush they get from hating other people so these people will always fight with you you have no other option now if you if China participated in destabilizing India the problem is that um a destabilized India will be worse for India than a a stable chaotic India because at least you can control refugee inflow into China what can you do if tomorrow a 100 million people try to cross the border from India to China if India falls apart it will be a crisis for China now I know you you may have a great armed forces but great armed forces only work as long as you are fighting with armed forces if you have a 100 million people trying to cross the border you are in deep trouble so my guess is that Chinese government should want to um uh not destabilize India but at the same time make sure that the borders are properly protected because uh once the borders are once people can start crossing in and India will get destabilized india will fall apart into smaller countries india will have a lot of problems in the future so China has to protect itself rather than participate in creating more of the same problems yeah okay the
next question
foreign so um I initially used two words self delusion and selfdeception that Indians suffer from um and uh I think people should really study that subject because India is a neighboring country and you have to understand how the minds of Indians work these are extraordinarily deluded people they are it is very badly deceived people and that is what the nature of existence of Indians is so there's no running away from that uh yes it is true that Indians really think that Pakistan won the recent war uh that India was able to devastate Pakistan on the new television channels of Pakistan uh of of India there was news about India taking over cities in Pakistan that they had destroyed everything to do with Pakistan and they were about to take over the whole country when India was actually badly losing the war so it is very easy to uh deceive Indians because they are prepared for selfdeception and they want to be deluded now so they want to believe that India is a more industrialized country india is a more um um is a better place to be in and that Chinese have no freedom so they have they and they don't want to believe anything else in fact if you look at the posting of um the prime minister Modi over the last on Twitter or other social media you will see that he's talking about how India has exceeded Japan in GDP now that is um Japan is a first world developed country u India is a third world hell hole there is no comparison japan is among the top four or five countries in the world india is among the top 10 or 15 countries in the world uh but Indians want to be fooled um so um so yeah it is indeed true that Indians want to believe that they are stronger and more powerful than China is um u and and you can do nothing about it um here is the issue for me uh as if if I lived in India and I no longer live in India i do visit India quite often if I lived in India my biggest enemy would be the government of India and why is that um the reason is that um u whenever I encounter a government servant in India there's only one thing that matters and that one thing is bribe and you have to experience it to believe it when you encounter a government servant in in India his only interest is in how much bribe he can get out of you and if you are a woman maybe sexual favors as well so that is the ma that is the minds of the Indian government people they are predatory they want to go after you uh the Indian police is u is is is worse than criminals so I want to see my Indian government as my biggest enemy and anyone who harms the Indian government is my friend by uh by definition so in my my point of view for a sane Indian a defeat of India in the in the hands of Pakistan was a win for a sane Indians because his enemy which is the Indian government which does not think about India at all who does not care about Indians was defeated now um what can you do about the chaos and the corruption and dirty India hey it will get worse with time um India is going to continue to get worse and I tell you the envy Indians will face about China will continue to increase and the reason is that India will continue to worsen and at least in the foreseeable future I see China continuing to improve and this will create a huge amount of envy now um in in in China it uh the the here's the is a very important issue at least in
the western countries there's something called the ten commandments which means that when you grow up um your society teaches you to think in terms of dos and don'ts don't do this don't don't covet women of other people or don't be envious don't give false um evidence in court those kind of things in India there is no concept of those values
which means that when people are envious that envy is unconstrained it has there's no restrain on that uh envy and they can go completely berserk about it So Indian envy will continue to increase going forward because they don't uh because India will continue to get worse with time the law and order is now at least in my province of Madhya Pradesh and I have traveled all over the country in my province of Madhya Pradesh law and order is 100% in the in under the control of the mafia so mafia uses the police he calls up the head of the police and say hey go and get rid of this guy kill this guy so that is how bad the law and order situation in that country so yes the situation will continue to worsen and China can do nothing about it so u the the only reason u Hindus in India which is like 80 to 85% of the population support Israel is because um because Palestinians are Muslim sorry Israel because the ind these Hindus are anti-Muslim so u that is the sole purpose behind their motivation to support Israel now I tell you I am in favor of Israel i think Israel has to do what it is doing because it has not been able to sort out the Palestinian problem and Palestinian are so um indoctrinated uh in a way that no Muslim country around Palestine wants to accept Palestinian refugees but having said that the reason Indians support the war between by Israel against Palestinians is because of their anti-Muslim mentality and there is this increasing anti-Muslim hysteria developing in India and that will come to hurt India very badly eventually because they are close to 200 million Muslims in the country you can you can't really uh de make them foreigners within when they are such a big population they are a major minority and there's nothing that can be done indians should love not to hate uh Muslims but unfortunately right from the very top of the politicians they all want Indians to learn to hate Muslims so unfortunately uh there is no way out of this thing uh India will support Israel for a wrong reason again because it is anti-Muslim okay so we have uh
seven question here uh just four and the next no no problem okay well um um so um firstly any kind of immigrants is a big problem for the host country if you have a small number of immigrants in any society they create problems because they fail to assimilate it takes many generations for for uh for people to assimilate at best but most people do simply do not assimilate uh unfortunately they are ghettos ghettos are pe areas where uh immigrants um conglomerate they they get together in those areas and live together and work together um there are ghettos of immigrants in the US Canada Australia New Zealand UK for generations now so these people refuse to get assimilated particularly the people from the third world and the reason is that the third world countries are hellholds because of the kind of people they have in those third world countries so you have to be very careful bringing in immigrants from South Asia subsaharan Africa or even from Latin America because these are the people who created the hellholds that they are they left behind and they have now arrived into the western countries they will not assimilate and they will convert the western society into third world countries so um so you are 100% correct indians will not assimilate but it's not just about Indians most people most immigrants will not assimilate into the West mostimmigrants from the third world countries and 90% of immigrants who come to the Western world today are from the third world so unfortunately there's a huge problem with immigration uh in the Western world and I guarantee you this will destroy the Western society and I feel very sad for America i live in America i love that country but unfortunately and it's a great country it's it's it's by in my view the best country on the planet but unfortunately within the next two decades it will get destroyed because of third world people and this is where I always congratulate Far East Asian countries uh Korea Japan China and Taiwan Hong Kong and Singapore for not bringing in immigrants because these countries are completely closed for for for immigrants if you come as a refugee to China or to Singapore you get into serious trouble whereas if you come as a refugee to the United Kingdom or Canada they welcome you they come and hug you they give you a lot of money they give you five star hotels they've give you uh all that you want so um one great thing Far East Asian countries have done is that they do not accept people from the third world so um I have spent a lot of time in China recently and I meet a lot of young Chinese people i uh and Chinese are very worried about the future there is an economic problem in China there is unemployment in China uh but here is the issue um always it is the smart people the intelligent people who are worried about the future people who are not very intelligent do not care they don't worry about the future so the the thing is that irrespective of what happens to China Chinese will always be paranoid so is the case with western people western people are paranoid because they are intelligent smart people and intelligent smart people worry about the future as a re as a result they are always paranoid that said China does have an economic problem uh and I I when you ask whether China is the Japan of 1980s or '9s or the US of 1930s my mind my experience what I have seen in China and I'm talking about months of traveling in China over the over this year uh my view is that China is not the Japan of 1980s China is very likely the US of 1930s China in my view will continue to grow and continue to improve because firstly I see virtually no civil conflicts in China um I see a government that works reasonably well and I I see at least as a foreigner I see a social stability which tells me that China will continue to grow now yes the current tariff war will be a problem for China because China supplies uh depending on how you calculate anything between 10 to 20% of its exports to the USA uh it I think directly supplies 10% of its exports to the USA and 10% of its exports to the USA via Mexico Hong Kong or other countries so China will suffer if the tariff war continues but um but I really really hope that China and the US somehow um uh learn to work together i love both these countries i feel great in the US living in the US it's a lovely country with lovely people and I have similar experiences in China these are both rational people and both people who have commonality of values i think they should learn to work together rather than fight with each other i don't see a war ever happening between China and the US because both are rational people but at the same time I hope they learn to work together because these are the two countries that can that can improve each other by working together but here is the problem governments become scared it is not about the people after a certain level governments become scared of what is happening in the economies and societies of other countries and I don't understand that those nuances about the governments of chi government of China or the government of the USA so I really hope that people wake up to learn to like each other here is the issue um in the United States when I tell my friend about China they roll their eyes they don't believe me they don't believe that China has improved so much similarly I'm told when I talk with Chinese in China what they think about the US they they are worried about is speaking good about the United States because there is this social and peer pressure not to speak too positively about the US so I hope the two people start open up their minds and understand that they are more alike each other rather than different from each others and these two countries can work very well in fact when I drive around China and I was driving around last week in China um and when I drive around in China I go to new places and I my mind sometimes thinks I am in the USA because the roads are like the USA the cars are beautiful the the the new places I go to are lovely so um I I think China is becoming something that is a combination of the US and Japan um so because Japan does not have wide roads japan is not all that big a country so I see China more like the USA of 1930s but again you
have to be very careful because there is something called a term called growth panic and uh and when societies change it they create a lot of internal stresses and things can blow up at any point of time so uh people have to be very careful governments have to be very careful that they continue this economic improvement of China um my dad used to run uh one of the most important printing presses in central province of India uh in the city called Bopal uh which is the capital city of Madhya Pradesh whose population was about 120 million people which by itself would be the biggest country in European Union so uh my dad ran a printing press there and uh I used to work with him from uh very early times i think I was four five years old when I was already working with him the people who came to my dad's printing press were all politicians so I have known these people very closely um also um I was able to uh go to a Catholic school and u fortunately for uh several reasons I was able to um develop an independent way of thinking and I think one of the key reason is my dad because he ran his own business he ran a printing press and when you run a business you have to be u you have to understand causality you have to understand feedback you cannot fool yourself i can't fool myself thinking that hey I'm running a business i'm becoming a billionaire no if your company is losing money you are going to go bankrupt so uh because that objectivity was inculcated in me because of working with my dad and my dad was among the most honest people I have ever ever met in my life so so that taught me to think independently because again it's a country where I have not encountered
another honest person so um I think that helped create an independent thinking in me but then I went to live in the United Kingdom and Canada and I tell you these are people who speak who have a lot of virtues who speak the truth and who who are tolerant who are compassionate who want to help other people so um I was able to improve on a lot of my ways of thinking once I started living in in the UK and then in Canada great uh okay we are glad to invite Mr jant to share his views with us from the perspective of a professional observer of India a very good opportunity for Chinese audience uh thank you uh Mr jant that's all for today's uh video goodbye thank you thank you very much for the opportunity okay
