评论: 以色列军方疯狂炸学校 美国继续提供炮弹(图)

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kapper 发表评论于 2014-08-03 22:01:27
Truth is obvious that Hamas has used three UN facilities to store its weapons. It is pointless to argue the name of each facility. Do google yourself. Here is a hint ******timesofisrael***/rockets-found-in-unrwa-school-for-third-time/.

may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-03 18:28:11 To Kraper
May_day is a name in memory of tragic loss of fellow countrymen's
lives in the MH370 incident. I have no problem at all with whatever
name you wanted to use or will use, which is truly and solely your
own business. However, through the end of your despicable and gruesome
statement, you did not even bother to answer which UN facilities
kapper 发表评论于 2014-08-03 21:55:26
to may_day: u fked up shixhead, Shanti is in beit Hanoun, do the google yourself before making a claim.

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may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-03 18:52:16 To Kraper
Below is an unconfirmed accusation you referenced, and it's NOT about
Beit Hanoun School
Usually I don't say this, but I really don't have time for Shifa
kapper 发表评论于 2014-08-03 21:49:32
To may-day. Anyway, if you think you have done enough homework, think it again. Basically, your own post confirms Gabriel’s claim about failed Hamas’s rocket hit the UNRWA school in Beit Hanoun, which is contradicting to your argument. Further, CNN’s Karl Penhaul reported the death of 16 Palestinian civilians at or near an UNRWA school in Beit Hanoun. So what is your point?

About the attack on Shifa Hospital, Finnish TV confirmed that was Hamas who fired rocket at the hospital parking lot, which might be malfunction as it is not the first time. Here is the link: ******youtube***/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Nu-e5qWXx-k. At least, IDF has independent eyewitness which is a creditable media organization. In contrast, Hamas only has unidentified eyewitness. How convenient? Also, the Gaza’s Health Ministry is actually controlled by Hamas. Do you think it has any credibility at all? I really doubt it. Especially it is part of Hamas propaganda machine. I truly suggest you to do a thorough research before making a claim or pointing fingers. Otherwise, it is just gonna embarrass yourself. Also the following links show that the UN has condemned Hamas using UN facilities as weapon storage. By the way, it is pointless to argue exactly which UN schools were used for Hamas to store weapons, since the claim is true and verified. ******un.org/sg/statements/index.asp?nid=7885
******timesofisrael***/rockets-found-in-unrwa-school-for-third-time/
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may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-03 18:52:16 To Kraper
Below is an unconfirmed accusation you referenced, and it's NOT about
Beit Hanoun School!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-03 18:52:16
To Kraper
Below is an unconfirmed accusation you referenced, and it's NOT about
Beit Hanoun School!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on, you Kraper, did you really pass college level-4 English test?!
Usually I don't say this, but I really don't have time for Shifa
Hospital in Al-Shati or whatever. Keep up digging! Now you learnt
how to google. Good start!

may_day
really need to work

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This story has been viral on the internet…but was not official. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has checked it out. It’s true.
This will be a big story. It’s a tweet from Gabriel Ebarbati, an Italian reporter in the Middle East.
He has now left Gaza. Accordingly he can actually be a reporter instead of a hostage. He backs the IDF Spokesperson’s account of what happened at Shifa Hospital in Al-Shati and reports that terrorists rushed in and “cleaned up”.
He also backed up the IDF’s version completely:
This is his tweet leaving Gaza a little earlier:
Aussie Dave adds: i was actually working on a post on this same topic, which Brian did not see when he posted this. So I will just add some further comments I had in my post (now flushed down the memory hole).
Yesterday, Gaza’s Shifa Hospital and Al-Shati Refugee Camp were hit by missiles, killing at least 10 with dozens wounded. At the time, the IDF was quick to point the finger at Hamas.
“A short while ago Al-Shifa hospital was struck by a failed rocket attack launched by Gaza terror organizations. A barrage of three rockets that were aimed towards Israel, struck the hospital. At the time of the incident there was no Israeli military activity in the area surrounding the hospital whatsoever. “
Hamas, naturally, blamed Israel, with some help from palestinian “eyewitnesses.”
Ten people were killed in the attack, including eight children, and forty were injured, thirty-two of them children, according to Gaza’s Health Ministry. Israel claimed a misfired militant rocket caused the carnage, but several eyewitnesses blamed the explosion on an airstrike.
Most of the media reported this as he said/she said – although some initially blamed Israel, before amending their headlines – with the IDF and Hamas claims both mentioned. But now, we have some independent verification of the IDF version, coming from Italian journalist Gabriele Barbati, as Brian mentioned above. It is important to note he can hardly be accused of being a Zionist shill.
may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-03 18:35:45
To Kraper
Now you again did not show the correct webpage.
accusation is NOT evidence! Look it up in your
dictionary if you do NOT know the difference.
Beit Hanoun school!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not other junk crap school...

may_day
have to go! Don't waste my precious time!
may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-03 18:28:11
To Kraper
May_day is a name in memory of tragic loss of fellow countrymen's
lives in the MH370 incident. I have no problem at all with whatever
name you wanted to use or will use, which is truly and solely your
own business. However, through the end of your despicable and gruesome
statement, you did not even bother to answer which UN facilities
you claimed to have Hamas's rockets. Truth and lies are sometimes
one step apart, and I desperately do not want a noble, intelligent,
and "deep" person like you to fall that one step short.

I used to work for a charity healthcare provider-Ascension health,
who firmly believe, in this nation as well as in the world, all people
are equal and shall not be left behind in terms of the rights of having
healthcare. I was particularly flattered when you stated that it was my
organization behind whatever I said or did or intended to do, which
inevitably aroused happy memory of those years working there that I
am absolutely proud of. Now I can forget and forgive your resentful
and untrue accusation, happily start another beautiful new day. ciao
kapper 发表评论于 2014-08-03 16:13:10
现在已经有记者(Gabriel Ebarbati)确认了hamas把Beit Hanoun school学校炸了,然后再掩盖事实真相。到底是谁在撒谎。“Out of Gaza far from Hamas retaliation: misfired rocket killed children yday [sic] in Shati. Witness: militants rushed and cleared debris”. While that’s old news now and everybody’s attention has moved on to other things, the pattern keeps repeating and the issue of intimidation of journalists covering the conflict is still very much a live issue.” “你的第一个视频哈马斯从Abu Nur学校发射火箭,这个学校不受联合国管”不受联合国管就是可以发射火箭弹的理由吗?是谁在牺牲平民的鲜血?
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may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-03 08:13:42 lqmin你的第一个视频哈马斯从Abu Nur学校发射火箭,这个学校不受联合国管。
第二个新闻链接是以色列国家新闻社的,没有照片,没有校名,各大新闻社只说
是一废弃学校。第三个视频哈马斯从居民区发射火箭,同样不是Beit Hanoun
school!
kapper 发表评论于 2014-08-03 15:51:32
“To kapper or Crap, whatever” this only demonstrates how arrogant, ignorant and shallow you are, exactly like hamas the evil terrorist organization which you support. Just same as your nickname “may_day” so are you, your values and believes will be destroyed and sink. At the same time, you and whichever the organization is behind you will be shamefully exposed, judged and ignored by the history one day. Yeah whatever.
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may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-03 07:59:05 To kapper or Crap, whatever

kapper 发表评论于 2014-08-03 14:09:48
“一个国家被人武力分割为2块,因为以色列她还不能称为国家(未建国)”加沙是巴勒斯坦的一部分,而巴勒斯坦是个国家(至少有自己的政府组织)。而巴勒斯坦的中央政府是有fatah(PA,巴解)组织控制的,总统是abbas。Fatah和hamas代表不同的宗教利益。加沙实际是由hamas控制。当然fatah有权解除hamas的武装,可是hamas是穆兄会的分支,有卡塔尔、土耳其、伊朗和hezbollah支持的。2004年,Fatah和hamas就为了争夺加沙的控制权一直在打内战。”一个国家被人武力分割为2块”不是以色列的责任,是Fatah和hamas之间的内部矛盾。以色列是承认巴勒斯坦的,至于谁控制那个地方跟以色列一点关系都没有。
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最后的恐龙 发表评论于 2014-08-03 11:56:38
一个国家被人武力分割为2块,因为以色列她还不能称为国家(未建国)。
may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-03 08:13:42
lqmin你的第一个视频哈马斯从Abu Nur学校发射火箭,这个学校不受联合国管。
第二个新闻链接是以色列国家新闻社的,没有照片,没有校名,各大新闻社只说
是一废弃学校。第三个视频哈马斯从居民区发射火箭,同样不是Beit Hanoun
school!

To kapper or Crap, whatever
你中学英文及格了吗?整了半宿,整出个"UN的三个facility",忘了中学体育
老师是咋说的?可数名词复数难道不是“facilities"?三个里有没有联合国
学校Beit Hanoun School?有没有名称,网址?
啥都没有,你这新闻是咋看的,是用P股中间吗?
may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-03 07:59:05
youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=Ye_GNotg-S8
youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=wlUkaEQeJrs
说联合国没谴责以色列方的,请瞪大眼看联合国秘书长谴责以军炮击学校!
这里讨论的是联合国学校Beit Hanoun School,还有周四第二所UN学校。
根据5天以来最新的调查,双方并未发现有证据证明哈马斯从联合国学校
Beit Hanoun School发射火箭!!!但以色列军方公布视屏倒是显示
一颗坦克炮弹落在该校空地(视屏见下,弹坑照片见下),显然是误击,
以色列已承认有可能误击UN学校,跟哈马斯无关,这已经是进了一大步!
youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=bRyQyx2LiLg
news.bbcimgDOTco.uk/media/images/76626000/jpg/_76626557_76626556.jpg

The UN view
Officials said they had been trying to agree a time with the Israeli army when civilians could leave the area. However, Bob Turner, the Gaza director of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (Unrwa), said his organisation was "never given a confirmed window" for its staff and displaced Palestinians to be evacuated from the shelter.
kapper 发表评论于 2014-08-03 00:47:58
请问您“丫看新闻了吗”?以军在UN的三个facility 里面发现了hamas藏的弹药。其实Chris Gunness就要为此负上全责的。而且他手下的所谓“当地的UN员工”绝大多数都是hamas的成员。被发现后跑到支持hamas的卡塔尔的al-jazzera上哭哭啼啼,表演的真像呀。同时,很多证据都表明周二的联合国学校就是hamas自己的火箭弹炸的。同时UN也确认了并谴责了hamas的恐怖行为。想不到还有人面对真相,信口雌黄。
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may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-02 20:48:24
以上两位,你丫看新闻了吗?是不识字呢,还是眼睛长在P股中间了。
UNRWA发言人冈尼斯(Chris Gunness)周三接受半岛电视台访问谈及加沙人道危机时,语带哽咽地指出「巴人以至巴人儿童的权利都被抹杀,令人震惊」,随后...
may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-02 19:46:54
采访--学校被炸,他发誓快点长大,当人肉炸弹。旁边他5岁的妹妹,一个
很漂亮的小女孩,瞪大了眼睛望着他。消灭恐怖分子没错,但是一边消灭一边
制造出更多更小的恐怖分子,应该反思是那里出错了。老子说过“民不畏死,
奈何以死惧之。” 可为啥民不畏死呢?

lqmin你的第一个视频哈马斯从Abu Nur学校发射火箭,这个学校不受联合国管。
第二个新闻链接是以色列国家新闻社的,没有照片,没有校名,各大新闻社只说
是一废弃学校。第三个视频哈马斯从居民区发射火箭,同样不是Beit Hanoun!
may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-02 18:37:21
谎言说过一百遍,也不会变成真理!
除非你是个纳粹!回付楼下lqmin
buzzfeedDOTcom/sheerafrenkel/what-really-happened-when-an-
explosion-hit-a-un-school-in-ga
news.bbcimgDOTco.uk/media/images/76626000/jpg/_76626557_76626556.jpg
根据5天以来最新的调查,双方并未发现有证据证明哈马斯从联合国学校
Beit Hanoun School发射火箭!!!但以色列军方公布视屏倒是显示
一颗坦克炮弹落在该校空地(视屏见上,弹坑照片见上),显然是误击,
但是没伤到人。以色列开始承认有可能误击联合国学校,跟哈马斯无关,
这已经是进了一大步!回想当天的记者会,以色列军方先是说哈马斯现从
学校发射火箭,后来有改口是“附近”,BBC记者当时就火了,没有证据你
就炮击联合国学校?!CBS也不示弱,当天播出对该校一个十来岁少年的
may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-02 18:17:39
What Really Happened When An Explosion Hit A U.N. School

Israeli officials released footage it said showed rockets being fired from within the U.N. school. (Hamas rockets have been found stored in U.N. schools in two separate cases in the past few weeks.) The video was first aired by NBC’s David Gregory, during a live interview with Chris Gunness, a spokesman for the U.N.’s refugee agency. U.N. officials later said in a statement given to NBC that the school in the video was a different one, not under U.N. control, and its shape did not even resemble the U.N. school in Beit Hanoun.

Four days later, Israeli officials now say one of their tank shells did hit the school courtyard, but insist that it was empty at the time. Israeli military spokesman Peter Lerner told BuzzFeed that the “area in and around Beit Hanoun was part of an ongoing battle which included extensive firing on our forces.”
“We responded with mortar fire in the direction of the perpetrators. One of the mortars we fired was misfired and landed in the middle of the courtyard of an U.N. school,” Lerner said. He said that the IDF could only confirm a single round hitting the school, and that any additional fire that multiple eyewitnesses reported hearing or seeing was not the IDF.
笔利于剑 发表评论于 2014-08-02 17:14:43
所谓物极必反,既然反反复复循环不已,干脆杀个够,看谁能把谁杀光。 人类 no zuo no die!
·八戒· 发表评论于 2014-08-02 13:06:40
这就是你统统杀死的理由?让强盗进屋可以有各种原因,可以是自愿的,更可以是被迫的,还可以是不知情的,你凭啥就可以滥杀无辜呢?
·八戒· 发表评论于 2014-08-02 07:23:17
你编故事也得靠谱啊。妇女儿童是什么恐怖分子?上哪里找被炸得支离破碎的孩子伪造证据?那里是联合国的难民学校,哪来的发射基地?在废墟里找到火箭发射器了吗?和布什一样,靠谎言掩盖屠杀平民的罪恶吗?

说是火箭发射基地,拿出证据来。
woguoke 发表评论于 2014-08-02 07:12:19
”以色列打死的1000多人基本都是哈马斯?”
所谓打死了1000多人,哪个哈马斯恐怖分子被打死后没有对外说打死了平民?死者中又有多少是从复计算的?另外,哈马斯已经用的欺骗伎俩就是一旦它的火箭发射地被摧毁,就赶紧抬些小孩进去,说打死了小孩。显然,哈马斯不但是恐怖分子,而且也是说谎者,捏造事实者。
woguoke 发表评论于 2014-08-02 06:55:51
以色列军方疯狂炸学校?那是普通的学校么,哪个”学校“里面不是哈马斯空袭以色列的导弹阵地群?哈马斯用来空袭以色列的战场还有医院,清真寺,居民区,电厂,水厂等等,如果以色列不摧毁这些导弹阵地,哈马斯就会不停地从那里向以色列平民发射火箭。
·八戒· 发表评论于 2014-08-02 06:02:59
如果一个强盗躲在你家,警察怕死,于是把你家炸了,把你老婆孩子和强盗都炸死了,你认为如何?谁让你家藏了强盗了?所以,警察是为了正义,呵呵
·八戒· 发表评论于 2014-08-02 05:57:04
呵呵,以色列可以宣称那些孩子们是未来的恐怖分子,所以该死。
1232 发表评论于 2014-08-01 18:12:54
不管是谁炸的,都是美国的军火,以色列炮弹是美国提供的.

哈马思是卡塔尔提供的,而卡的军火全是向美国买的.
pinggh 发表评论于 2014-08-01 08:54:23
Is the occupied city larger than Fengtai District? Funny point.
yard2012 发表评论于 2014-08-01 08:30:29
哈马斯的军营,部队都建在居民区 学校 医院附近,别的国家都是远离这些地方,哈马斯是什么货色就知道了吧!
pinggh 发表评论于 2014-08-01 08:07:34
Israel is so successful in affecting Chinese people in the way they want. Well what can we say, after all 85% of western media are controlled by jews and Chinese media just copy&paste.
lqmin 发表评论于 2014-08-01 07:32:53
试想有人朝北京市区或者中国任何一个市区发射火箭,中国政府会有什么说法。
但中国政府一直避免谴责哈马斯。甚至对“火箭攻击居民区”这样无可争议的恐怖事件也没有加以谴责。
下一次,当中国再缠着美国就类似昆明车站那样的事件表态时,美方应当学中方的榜样:
“我们对冲突不断升级、造成大量人员伤亡深表忧虑和痛心”。
“再次敦促有关各方保持最大限度的冷静和克制”。
笔名已被占用 发表评论于 2014-08-01 07:15:31
回 暴暴炎龙王 “……同时以色列在加沙清剿hamas的时候尽量做到不伤及无辜。”
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照你这么说,以色列打死的1000多人基本都是哈马斯?
hehe01 发表评论于 2014-08-01 07:15:14
除了5-毛,所有人都知道谁该为此负责。。。
hehe01 发表评论于 2014-08-01 07:14:02
联合国的通知俺也看到了,就是谴责哈马斯在联合国学校里藏武器。。。
hehe01 发表评论于 2014-08-01 06:45:48
今天双方刚刚同意停火,哈马斯就趁机袭击以色列,打死两名以色列士兵,停火再次失败。。。谁的责任很清楚了,不把哈马斯打到彻底瘫痪就是对巴勒斯坦人民的不负责任。。。
疯轮 发表评论于 2014-08-01 06:40:00
楼下土老冒:贝鲁特大屠杀不是以色列干的,只是沙龙领导的军队因误判而错失及时干预的机会。大屠杀是另一帮人在难民区一夜之间干的。等沙龙意识到惨案已经发生了。
cymbalsman 发表评论于 2014-08-01 06:34:49
楼下说中国人造谣天下第一,这算是自证自己在造谣?

算了吧,你就是个逢中必反的货,在这里支持以色列只能给以色列找黑。
vaio2014 发表评论于 2014-08-01 06:14:21
国防部发言人称,向以国售武,协助其发展及维持强大自卫能力符合美国国家利益
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请问是谁说的?能不能给个出处?中国人造谣天下第一。
各位要搞清楚,买武器给以色列的是私人公司,不是美国政府。
美国政府无能为力,除非他起草法律禁止出口任何武器给以色列。
暴暴炎龙王 发表评论于 2014-08-01 06:10:23
基本上每年两人,每500个火箭弹死一个人。而以色列这次一次出动就杀了1000多人” 对于正义的人来说,一条人命和一百条人命是对等的,因为同样是生命而不是单纯的数字。
如果正义建立在死亡的人数上是对生命和正义的侮辱。不能说,武器落后就构不成威胁。可是一样会对精神和肉体造成伤害,而不一定是死亡。就像不是所以坏人都用枪吧?最近那个在南加大是被一伙暴徒用棍棒打死的!

“每500个火箭弹死一个人。而以色列这次一次出动就杀了1000多人”这正是以色列政府和hamas 的不同。以色列政府为了保护本国人的生命和财产安全,所以建立iron of dome 防御系统并建立防空洞。可是hamas就向平民发射无差别袭击。同时以色列在加沙清剿hamas的时候尽量做到不伤及无辜。反而是hamas躲在平民里面搞袭击,利用学校,医院,清真寺和un facility搞恐怖活动,不顾老百姓的死活并利用他们当人肉盾牌。

提醒大家注意一下,
在哈马斯 的心里不是想要五百个火箭弹死一个人的吧。
如果不是以色列技术水平高,早让哈马斯给灭族了吧。
发表评论于 2014-08-01 05:52:24
"国防部发言人称,向以国售武,协助其发展及维持强大自卫能力符合美国国家利益"
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看楼下争得如此激烈,好像都为了说服对方自己支持的一方才是正义的,或至少是迫不得已的。你看看人家美国人的观点“符合美国国家利益”,人家根本就没说正义不正义,是否符合民主人权或普世价值。
暴暴炎龙王 发表评论于 2014-08-01 05:51:12
1开战前,以色列给出时间让平民撤离。是哈马斯禁止平民离开。
2哈马斯自己也说目前的人肉盾牌策略十分成功。
3哈马斯不同意停火。
woguoke 发表评论于 2014-08-01 04:57:46
原来哈马斯从学校,医院,清真寺,居民区发射火箭,以色列都能看得到,以色列要摧毁这些火箭,很难避免伤及无辜。有很多视频在youtube*** , 从下面部分视频看,以军的IDF也是尽量避免伤及无辜,但由于这些火箭的位置....
Hamas Terrorists Fire Rockets from a Gazan School

***youtu.be/scw8N7B07bQ

***youtu.be/B4p3Ilu8yKs

***youtu.be/8O9AHzUKYk8
春丽 发表评论于 2014-08-01 02:57:24
当年越南,今天偷偷过来打死你几个百姓,明天给你几炮,后天上你这埋几个地雷。然后解放军打过去了,越南在国际社会上那个闹啊,打死人啦,侵略啦,屠杀老人孩子啦......

jaspath 发表评论于 2014-08-01 02:53:54
Hamas不投降,不接受停火协议,以色列是有些铁了心打下去了。这么多无辜的平民死伤确实让人觉得这场战争很残酷。
另一方面Hamas在和平时也确实有事没事就往以色列打火箭,还用联合国援助的用于普通民建的水泥挖地道到人家里绑人放炸弹。Hamas 如果和以色列对调实力的话,以色列人会更惨,是国将不国的惨。
东吴 发表评论于 2014-08-01 02:36:48
德州土老帽就是一个回民,共产党用人民的血汗钱养出来的白眼狼而已。它的话能听的吗?
yaohua 发表评论于 2014-08-01 01:58:09
"全世界的人都在谴责Hamas, 除了一小撮Hamas的支持者。"

说的完全正确。对一小撮极端宗教分子就是要彻底消灭。他们现在叫嚷着以色列伤害平民了,没想想他们在全世界杀了多少无辜平民了?
南京大头 发表评论于 2014-08-01 01:08:06
美国干过很多坏事、错事。但在支持以色列自卫反击哈马斯上做的完全正确!
裘千里 发表评论于 2014-07-31 23:42:57
都是圣经惹的.
kapper 发表评论于 2014-07-31 23:41:34
So u claimed ur english was good, the following links prove that hamas has used un facilities such as hospitals and schools to lodge its attacks on irael. Also, it shows that how hamas was so embarrassed to bomb un school becoz of its rocket malfunction. U wanna true, here it is. However, I doubt if you can handle it.
******jpost***/Operation-Protective-Edge/Likud-deputy-foreign-minister-Israel-has-much-evidence-on-UNRWA-facilities-369457
***unitedwithisrael.org/italian-reporter-in-gaza-reveals-hamas-cover-up/?utm_source=MadMimi&utm_medium=email&utm_content=%5BIsrael+Under+Fire%5D+Hamas+Urges+Human+Sacrifice&utm_campaign=20140731_m121546434_%5BIsrael+Under+Fire%5D+Hamas+Urges+Human+Sacrifice%21&utm_term=Italian+Reporter+in+Gaza+Reveals+Hamas+Cover-Up
******israelnationalnews***/News/News.aspx/183566#.U9phePl_srV
******jpost***/Operation-Protective-Edge/Likud-deputy-foreign-minister-Israel-has-much-evidence-on-UNRWA-facilities-369457
******jihadwatch.org/2014/07/one-of-hamas-main-command-bunkers-located-beneath-shifa-hospital-in-gaza-city
***honestreporting***/idns-07292014-shifa-hospital/
may_day 发表评论于 2014-07-31 22:45:27
有没有说谎!更可笑的还说是哈马斯炸的联合国学校,

mich_mich 发表评论于 2014-07-31 23:38:59
怎么看到楼下的像是在讨论中国抗日的地道战啦?
lqmin 发表评论于 2014-07-31 23:32:57
以色列尽力打击对方的军事目标,意外的情况下才打中平民;
哈马斯尽力打击对方的平民目标,意外的情况下才打中军人。
kapper 发表评论于 2014-07-31 23:29:15
“我也不知道统计从哪儿来的”这是不是道听途说呢?没有证据就指责。加沙是有hamas控制的,人数是他们说了算。更别提un了,已经在三个un的facility里面发现了hamas的武器及弹药。如果是一次,两次还可以理解,这都已经是第三次了吧。这些来源值得相信吗?
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德州土老冒 发表评论于 2014-07-31 22:13:06
我也不知道统计从哪儿来的,看新闻的。联合国在加沙有学校、医院和一些救助机构,估计差不多吧。潘基文谴责以色列,也是因为联合国有人员伤亡。

kapper 发表评论于 2014-07-31 23:21:30
基本上每年两人,每500个火箭弹死一个人。而以色列这次一次出动就杀了1000多人” 对于正义的人来说,一条人命和一百条人命是对等的,因为同样是生命而不是单纯的数字。
如果正义建立在死亡的人数上是对生命和正义的侮辱。不能说,武器落后就构不成威胁。可是一样会对精神和肉体造成伤害,而不一定是死亡。就像不是所以坏人都用枪吧?最近那个在南加大是被一伙暴徒用棍棒打死的!

“每500个火箭弹死一个人。而以色列这次一次出动就杀了1000多人”这正是以色列政府和hamas 的不同。以色列政府为了保护本国人的生命和财产安全,所以建立iron of dome 防御系统并建立防空洞。可是hamas就向平民发射无差别袭击。同时以色列在加沙清剿hamas的时候尽量做到不伤及无辜。反而是hamas躲在平民里面搞袭击,利用学校,医院,清真寺和un facility搞恐怖活动,不顾老百姓的死活并利用他们当人肉盾牌。

德州土老冒 发表评论于 2014-07-31 22:13:06
aac 发表评论于 2014-07-31 23:16:14
一句话,以色列是自由国家,以色列不希望打仗。哈马斯拒绝承认以色列的合法地位。哈马斯是巴基斯坦人选上台的,所以巴基斯坦人就要承担选错人的代价。

只要哈马斯不发射火箭弹,以色列就会让他们完全独立。 中东和平的方案很简单,承认以色列,巴基斯坦和平建国。 犹太人和穆斯林能互相和平相处,穆斯林放弃消灭犹太人的主张。
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