Truth is obvious that Hamas has used three UN facilities to store its weapons. It is pointless to argue the name of each facility. Do google yourself. Here is a hint ******timesofisrael***/rockets-found-in-unrwa-school-for-third-time/.
may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-03 18:28:11 To Kraper
May_day is a name in memory of tragic loss of fellow countrymen's
lives in the MH370 incident. I have no problem at all with whatever
name you wanted to use or will use, which is truly and solely your
own business. However, through the end of your despicable and gruesome
statement, you did not even bother to answer which UN facilities
kapper 发表评论于
to may_day: u fked up shixhead, Shanti is in beit Hanoun, do the google yourself before making a claim.
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may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-03 18:52:16 To Kraper
Below is an unconfirmed accusation you referenced, and it's NOT about
Beit Hanoun School
Usually I don't say this, but I really don't have time for Shifa
kapper 发表评论于
To may-day. Anyway, if you think you have done enough homework, think it again. Basically, your own post confirms Gabriel’s claim about failed Hamas’s rocket hit the UNRWA school in Beit Hanoun, which is contradicting to your argument. Further, CNN’s Karl Penhaul reported the death of 16 Palestinian civilians at or near an UNRWA school in Beit Hanoun. So what is your point?
About the attack on Shifa Hospital, Finnish TV confirmed that was Hamas who fired rocket at the hospital parking lot, which might be malfunction as it is not the first time. Here is the link: ******youtube***/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Nu-e5qWXx-k. At least, IDF has independent eyewitness which is a creditable media organization. In contrast, Hamas only has unidentified eyewitness. How convenient? Also, the Gaza’s Health Ministry is actually controlled by Hamas. Do you think it has any credibility at all? I really doubt it. Especially it is part of Hamas propaganda machine. I truly suggest you to do a thorough research before making a claim or pointing fingers. Otherwise, it is just gonna embarrass yourself. Also the following links show that the UN has condemned Hamas using UN facilities as weapon storage. By the way, it is pointless to argue exactly which UN schools were used for Hamas to store weapons, since the claim is true and verified. ******un.org/sg/statements/index.asp?nid=7885
******timesofisrael***/rockets-found-in-unrwa-school-for-third-time/
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may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-03 18:52:16 To Kraper
Below is an unconfirmed accusation you referenced, and it's NOT about
Beit Hanoun School!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
may_day 发表评论于
To Kraper
Below is an unconfirmed accusation you referenced, and it's NOT about
Beit Hanoun School!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on, you Kraper, did you really pass college level-4 English test?!
Usually I don't say this, but I really don't have time for Shifa
Hospital in Al-Shati or whatever. Keep up digging! Now you learnt
how to google. Good start!
may_day
really need to work
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This story has been viral on the internet…but was not official. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has checked it out. It’s true.
This will be a big story. It’s a tweet from Gabriel Ebarbati, an Italian reporter in the Middle East.
He has now left Gaza. Accordingly he can actually be a reporter instead of a hostage. He backs the IDF Spokesperson’s account of what happened at Shifa Hospital in Al-Shati and reports that terrorists rushed in and “cleaned up”.
He also backed up the IDF’s version completely:
This is his tweet leaving Gaza a little earlier:
Aussie Dave adds: i was actually working on a post on this same topic, which Brian did not see when he posted this. So I will just add some further comments I had in my post (now flushed down the memory hole).
Yesterday, Gaza’s Shifa Hospital and Al-Shati Refugee Camp were hit by missiles, killing at least 10 with dozens wounded. At the time, the IDF was quick to point the finger at Hamas.
“A short while ago Al-Shifa hospital was struck by a failed rocket attack launched by Gaza terror organizations. A barrage of three rockets that were aimed towards Israel, struck the hospital. At the time of the incident there was no Israeli military activity in the area surrounding the hospital whatsoever. “
Hamas, naturally, blamed Israel, with some help from palestinian “eyewitnesses.”
Ten people were killed in the attack, including eight children, and forty were injured, thirty-two of them children, according to Gaza’s Health Ministry. Israel claimed a misfired militant rocket caused the carnage, but several eyewitnesses blamed the explosion on an airstrike.
Most of the media reported this as he said/she said – although some initially blamed Israel, before amending their headlines – with the IDF and Hamas claims both mentioned. But now, we have some independent verification of the IDF version, coming from Italian journalist Gabriele Barbati, as Brian mentioned above. It is important to note he can hardly be accused of being a Zionist shill.
may_day 发表评论于
To Kraper
Now you again did not show the correct webpage.
accusation is NOT evidence! Look it up in your
dictionary if you do NOT know the difference.
Beit Hanoun school!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not other junk crap school...
may_day
have to go! Don't waste my precious time!
may_day 发表评论于
To Kraper
May_day is a name in memory of tragic loss of fellow countrymen's
lives in the MH370 incident. I have no problem at all with whatever
name you wanted to use or will use, which is truly and solely your
own business. However, through the end of your despicable and gruesome
statement, you did not even bother to answer which UN facilities
you claimed to have Hamas's rockets. Truth and lies are sometimes
one step apart, and I desperately do not want a noble, intelligent,
and "deep" person like you to fall that one step short.
I used to work for a charity healthcare provider-Ascension health,
who firmly believe, in this nation as well as in the world, all people
are equal and shall not be left behind in terms of the rights of having
healthcare. I was particularly flattered when you stated that it was my
organization behind whatever I said or did or intended to do, which
inevitably aroused happy memory of those years working there that I
am absolutely proud of. Now I can forget and forgive your resentful
and untrue accusation, happily start another beautiful new day. ciao
kapper 发表评论于
现在已经有记者（Gabriel Ebarbati）确认了hamas把Beit Hanoun school学校炸了，然后再掩盖事实真相。到底是谁在撒谎。“Out of Gaza far from Hamas retaliation: misfired rocket killed children yday [sic] in Shati. Witness: militants rushed and cleared debris”. While that’s old news now and everybody’s attention has moved on to other things, the pattern keeps repeating and the issue of intimidation of journalists covering the conflict is still very much a live issue.” “你的第一个视频哈马斯从Abu Nur学校发射火箭,这个学校不受联合国管”不受联合国管就是可以发射火箭弹的理由吗？是谁在牺牲平民的鲜血？
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may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-03 08:13:42 lqmin你的第一个视频哈马斯从Abu Nur学校发射火箭,这个学校不受联合国管。
第二个新闻链接是以色列国家新闻社的，没有照片，没有校名，各大新闻社只说
是一废弃学校。第三个视频哈马斯从居民区发射火箭，同样不是Beit Hanoun
school！
kapper 发表评论于
“To kapper or Crap, whatever” this only demonstrates how arrogant, ignorant and shallow you are, exactly like hamas the evil terrorist organization which you support. Just same as your nickname “may_day” so are you, your values and believes will be destroyed and sink. At the same time, you and whichever the organization is behind you will be shamefully exposed, judged and ignored by the history one day. Yeah whatever.
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may_day 发表评论于 2014-08-03 07:59:05 To kapper or Crap, whatever
The UN view
Officials said they had been trying to agree a time with the Israeli army when civilians could leave the area. However, Bob Turner, the Gaza director of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (Unrwa), said his organisation was "never given a confirmed window" for its staff and displaced Palestinians to be evacuated from the shelter.
What Really Happened When An Explosion Hit A U.N. School
Israeli officials released footage it said showed rockets being fired from within the U.N. school. (Hamas rockets have been found stored in U.N. schools in two separate cases in the past few weeks.) The video was first aired by NBC’s David Gregory, during a live interview with Chris Gunness, a spokesman for the U.N.’s refugee agency. U.N. officials later said in a statement given to NBC that the school in the video was a different one, not under U.N. control, and its shape did not even resemble the U.N. school in Beit Hanoun.
Four days later, Israeli officials now say one of their tank shells did hit the school courtyard, but insist that it was empty at the time. Israeli military spokesman Peter Lerner told BuzzFeed that the “area in and around Beit Hanoun was part of an ongoing battle which included extensive firing on our forces.”
“We responded with mortar fire in the direction of the perpetrators. One of the mortars we fired was misfired and landed in the middle of the courtyard of an U.N. school,” Lerner said. He said that the IDF could only confirm a single round hitting the school, and that any additional fire that multiple eyewitnesses reported hearing or seeing was not the IDF.
笔利于剑 发表评论于
所谓物极必反，既然反反复复循环不已，干脆杀个够，看谁能把谁杀光。 人类 no zuo no die！
Israel is so successful in affecting Chinese people in the way they want. Well what can we say, after all 85% of western media are controlled by jews and Chinese media just copy&paste.
“每500个火箭弹死一个人。而以色列这次一次出动就杀了1000多人”这正是以色列政府和hamas 的不同。以色列政府为了保护本国人的生命和财产安全，所以建立iron of dome 防御系统并建立防空洞。可是hamas就向平民发射无差别袭击。同时以色列在加沙清剿hamas的时候尽量做到不伤及无辜。反而是hamas躲在平民里面搞袭击，利用学校，医院,清真寺和un facility搞恐怖活动，不顾老百姓的死活并利用他们当人肉盾牌。
原来哈马斯从学校，医院，清真寺，居民区发射火箭，以色列都能看得到，以色列要摧毁这些火箭，很难避免伤及无辜。有很多视频在youtube*** , 从下面部分视频看，以军的IDF也是尽量避免伤及无辜，但由于这些火箭的位置....
Hamas Terrorists Fire Rockets from a Gazan School
So u claimed ur english was good, the following links prove that hamas has used un facilities such as hospitals and schools to lodge its attacks on irael. Also, it shows that how hamas was so embarrassed to bomb un school becoz of its rocket malfunction. U wanna true, here it is. However, I doubt if you can handle it.
******jpost***/Operation-Protective-Edge/Likud-deputy-foreign-minister-Israel-has-much-evidence-on-UNRWA-facilities-369457
***unitedwithisrael.org/italian-reporter-in-gaza-reveals-hamas-cover-up/?utm_source=MadMimi&utm_medium=email&utm_content=%5BIsrael+Under+Fire%5D+Hamas+Urges+Human+Sacrifice&utm_campaign=20140731_m121546434_%5BIsrael+Under+Fire%5D+Hamas+Urges+Human+Sacrifice%21&utm_term=Italian+Reporter+in+Gaza+Reveals+Hamas+Cover-Up
******israelnationalnews***/News/News.aspx/183566#.U9phePl_srV
******jpost***/Operation-Protective-Edge/Likud-deputy-foreign-minister-Israel-has-much-evidence-on-UNRWA-facilities-369457
******jihadwatch.org/2014/07/one-of-hamas-main-command-bunkers-located-beneath-shifa-hospital-in-gaza-city
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may_day 发表评论于 2014-07-31 22:45:27
有没有说谎！更可笑的还说是哈马斯炸的联合国学校，
“每500个火箭弹死一个人。而以色列这次一次出动就杀了1000多人”这正是以色列政府和hamas 的不同。以色列政府为了保护本国人的生命和财产安全，所以建立iron of dome 防御系统并建立防空洞。可是hamas就向平民发射无差别袭击。同时以色列在加沙清剿hamas的时候尽量做到不伤及无辜。反而是hamas躲在平民里面搞袭击，利用学校，医院,清真寺和un facility搞恐怖活动，不顾老百姓的死活并利用他们当人肉盾牌。
***bbcDOTcom/news/world-middle-east-28563973
The Israeli view
... Israel also said that its forces had been facing mortar and rocket fire from the vicinity of the school at the time of the incident.
7/30在BBC记者追问下，军方发言人承认，没有证据证明武器直接从学校里发射，
只是在附近（vicinity of the school），记者马上说“在学校里”和“在附近”
是完全不同的概念，军方发言人无语。以下任何人说“哈马斯直接从学校里发射火箭”
请你拿出证据，至少给出哪一天哪一家通讯社报道的--一个email就可以证明你
有没有说谎！更可笑的还说是哈马斯炸的联合国学校，“据说”是这一类卑鄙小人
的口头禅，永远道听途说，永远不会查原文--你丫的英文是体育老师教的吗？连
小学的百分比都弄不明白，还好意思跳出来丢人现眼。
and don't forget hamas was elected by ppl in the gaza for form local government. also, plz remember that was hamas who used civilians as human shield and forbid them to leave during the conflict
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imageall2002 发表评论于 2014-07-31 20:54:03 Jews has no right to kill so many people in GAZA strip, people in Gaza are held as hostages by Hamas, It is wrong for Jews to kill hostages under the name of anti-terrorism. This is a genocide.
Well then, first I wanna ask when you accused IDF committed genocide, what are you evidence? What are your sources? Amongst those were killed how many were civilians? Children or women? How many were terrorists or so called “members of resistance“？ Is that hamas sole responsibility to ensure the safety of ppl in gaza? How come they disgusted as civilians when attacking Israel? And how come they built their terrorist networks, infrastructures, ammunition storage facilities and command post under the hospitals, schools and mosques? Even fired rocket to Israel during the funerals?
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imageall2002 发表评论于 2014-07-31 20:54:03
Jews has no right to kill so many people in GAZA strip, people in Gaza are held as hostages by Hamas, It is wrong for Jews to kill hostages under the name of anti-terrorism. This is a genocide.
Jews has no right to kill so many people in GAZA strip, people in Gaza are held as hostages by Hamas, It is wrong for Jews to kill hostages under the name of anti-terrorism. This is a genocide.
并且在1948以色列建国以前，犹太人用钱买了很多土地，其中很多都是沙漠和贫瘠的土地。以后在1948年以色列建国的领土大部分是在这个基础上划分的。可是后来在1948年阿拉伯人又反悔，就在以色列成立的第二天，十国阿拉伯联军就进攻以色列。后来陆陆续续又发生了一系列的战争。现在PA和以色列提出two state solution，hamas却提出反对。到底又是谁挑动战争的？？？？