原来如此说

圆圆笨笨,所以说话原原本本 :)
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三丰子,亲密兄,来看一篇某生物学博士砸老道的贴 :)

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貌似一篇很认真的working paper.克拉克博士要去保加利亚的美国大学任教了,还非常肯定必须讲进化论,所以如临大敌,做足功课,写下此文。
有点儿长,就不大段转述了。引几个当时让俺感慨强烈的句子:

Science is seen as having the power to unravel most, if not all, the mysteries of the universe without the need of the supernatural. Naturalism stipulates that all that exists is natural (matter and energy). One thread that runs throughout Dawkins works is his worship of science; his view that ultimately science can successfully address (almost) every problem. One thing science cannot do, however, is determine what is right and wrong, what is moral or immoral.
(这,Axiology 层面的事本就不该归科学管吧!当然Axiollogy也不该反过来干预和影响科学,例如小布什时代的美国生物医学界被不许做某些研究。。。 科学探索大诋涉及在ontology和epistemology层面,这然后,我们的认知会推进价值体系的演化,也许。)

For Dawkins, human life has value, not because we have been created in the image of God, but because, against astronomical odds, our particular combination of DNA came to be. (!这怎么了?有问题么?貌似问题相当严重!这句后面有许多段引文似罪状罪证。其实,看看还是觉得老道为文精彩!)


Dawkins is operating under the assumption that there is no God (and therefore no pre-defined purpose to life). In this context, religion becomes an empty shell. What are some of the ramifications of this worldview? How does a Dawkins-type atheism impinge on other areas of life?

不过就是两种不同谜姆竞争于用各自的extended phenotype统治世界吧,老道成了“科学”阵营的领军人物。于是这位就开始深挖Where has this hostility come from? Why has Dawkins placed himself at the extreme edge of the atheist camp? 看看,整出点儿隐私总是好的,科学church的教父是在报私仇:
There may also be a personal element to his hostility.
On page 316 of The God Delusion, Dawkins confides that he was the victim of sexual abuse at the hands of the clergy as a child.

夜深了,俺不多说。如有兴趣,请二位看全文:
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btw,老道明年三月12-13号来俺这里吔! 虽然此行是讲他那部新书做科普的,俺还是有机会聊聊他的旧作和理论。具体日程尚未最后排定,但是公开露面演讲之前有小型聚会,呵呵,俺已知俺能进去跟他聊聊The Extended Phenotype, 不是Gene,而是Meme: 所有的战争,革命,辩论,砸贴,都是啊 :))
老道是个好同志,好战士。
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一个人的亲密 回复 悄悄话 老道为什么成为战士呢?值得深思。怎么说都让人觉得很悲壮的,让我们深存敬意。

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